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How to save your group trip from dying in the group chat

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From group chat to group holiday.Oliver Pilcher/Trunk Archive

The WhatsApp group is where so many holidays go to die.

It begins, as these things do, with someone dropping an idea into the chat. Eight people immediately respond with fire emojis, the indelible “yessssss” and many, many exclamation marks. Someone creates a poll. Three weeks later, nobody has booked a flight.

When you think about it, going away with people is a small experiment in communal living. Who plans, who pays, who compromises, who cooks, who needs three hours alone every afternoon?

Travel has a way of exposing the dynamics of a friendship or family remarkably quickly. Organising a holiday for two is logistics. Organising one for eight is diplomacy, and the biggest challenge isn’t necessarily finding somewhere everyone wants to go. It’s converting enthusiasm into an actual booking. Agreeing to go away together, it turns out, is the easy part.

The fantasy is enormously appealing: a villa in Puglia, long lunches, lazy days by the river, the children disappearing happily into the distance while the adults open another bottle of wine.

What the fantasy tends to omit is the administrative machinery required to get everyone there: eight calendars, four budgets, three different ideas of what constitutes an acceptable airfare and one person who disappears from the group chat at precisely the moment a deposit is required.

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There is a certain irony in the fact that a holiday meant as an escape from the mental load of daily life can demand so much of it to arrange. Which may be the first rule of successful group travel: togetherness does not have to mean doing everything together.

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Organising a holiday for two is logistics. Organising one for eight is diplomacy.
Organising a holiday for two is logistics. Organising one for eight is diplomacy.Getty Images

HOW TO ESCAPE THE GROUP CHAT

Eventually, every group holiday needs someone willing to become the voice of reason. While everyone else is still sharing links to villas with infinity pools and messages saying “obsessed”, this person has opened a spreadsheet.

Call this person the Producer. They’re not necessarily the one who came up with the holiday, nor the one most excited about going. They’re simply the one prepared to take decisions. The Producer understands one fundamental truth of group travel: enthusiasm is not commitment. A deposit is.

There’s psychology behind why a seemingly simple decision becomes so much harder once a group is involved. Research into collective tourism decision-making found that the way leadership and influence are distributed within a group can affect not only how a decision is reached, but how everyone feels about the outcome.

The sweet spot wasn’t one person dictating proceedings, or everyone attempting to lead at once, but what researchers describe as “leader democracy”: someone steering the ship while the group still has a say.

Rather than asking eight people where they would like to go next year, thereby giving them the entire planet to consider, start by shrinking the universe: dates first, then budget, then the broad shape of the holiday. Ideally, offer two or three realistic options rather than 27 links deposited into WhatsApp over six months.

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There is, of course, another option: outsourcing the diplomacy. For a complicated group trip, a good travel adviser can effectively become an external Producer – narrowing the choices, managing the moving parts and, perhaps most importantly, dealing with one person, your group’s Producer, rather than your group en masse.

If it all gets too hard, a travel advisor might be the answer.
If it all gets too hard, a travel advisor might be the answer.iStock

Alicia Wilson, a luxury travel designer at ALX by A List Travel Group, says limiting those options is key. “I never go past three. The moment you give a buyer more than three options they turn into a shopper, and shopping is the enemy of booking.”

Wilson also works through one point of contact rather than trying to reach agreement across the group. “Trying to get true consensus from an entire group at every step is how a simple hotel choice turns into a six-week debate,” she says.

And then there’s money, probably the least appealing part of planning a holiday and one of the most important to discuss early. People with similar incomes can have wildly different ideas about what constitutes reasonable holiday spending.

One may think business class is non-negotiable; another would rather sit in the hold than spend extra money getting there. One may want the extraordinary villa; another would prefer the ordinary villa and extraordinary restaurants.

“I always lock in a budget with the client upfront, which gives me free rein within it to build in add-ons without going back to the group for every decision. Nobody wants a group chat with 12 opinions on turndown chocolates,” Wilson says. “Group travel pricing and availability shift day by day, so the group also needs to agree that decisions get made quickly. Hesitate for a few days and you might find your rooms, and your rate, have quietly vanished.”

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If a villa has been divided among eight, person eight’s withdrawal does not make their share of the bill disappear.
If a villa has been divided among eight, person eight’s withdrawal does not make their share of the bill disappear.iStock

This is where a great group travel adviser and an agreed budget really shine. “I can flex the add-ons,” says Wilson. “A prepaid food and beverage package in a private room where food matters most, a curated in-room gift and one big signature moment, like a baseball game in New York or a football match in the UK that everyone experiences together regardless of what they individually prioritise. Everyone gets their version of a win, even if half of them just came for the food.”

Once a destination and property have been chosen, everyone should know exactly what they are committing to before money changes hands: the dates, approximate total cost, deposit, cancellation terms and, crucially, what happens if someone pulls out.

If a $12,000 villa has been divided among eight people, Person Eight’s withdrawal does not magically make their eighth of the bill disappear. There comes a point when someone simply has to say: June 12-19. Puglia. This villa. This much per person. Deposit by Friday. Who’s in? Once the dates are fixed, the budget agreed and the deposits paid, congratulations, you have successfully escaped the group chat.

THE ETIQUETTE OF GROUP TRAVEL

For the sake of having the trip of a lifetime with your nearest and dearest, it’s worth taking the time to agree on a few things before you leave. First, how will accommodation be split: per room or per person? The single traveller in the smallest bedroom probably shouldn’t be subsidising the couple ensconced in the master suite with its ensuite, balcony and view.

And speaking of bedrooms, who gets the best one? Is it the person who found and organised the house? Do you rotate the privilege if this is an annual affair? Or is it whoever bolts to the best room first and throws their bags on the bed?

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There is no universally correct answer, and it will depend on the type of accommodation you’re staying in, but working this through before arrival is far more civilised than eight adults dragging suitcases through a place while silently clocking the merits of each bedroom.

Then there are the children. Do they count as full people when dividing accommodation costs? Does a family of five pay the same as a couple because they occupy one room, or more because they occupy half the house? And if you’re travelling with other families, how communal is childcare expected to become? One person’s “the kids can all entertain each other” can look remarkably like somebody else supervising seven children beside a swimming pool.

Food requires its own constitutional amendment. Will you eat out every night, take turns cooking, employ a chef or do your own thing? Is breakfast communal or fend-for-yourself? And when the restaurant bill arrives, will it be split evenly, run through the very useful app Splitwise, or simply left to come out in the wash over the course of the week? The non-drinker staring down their share of six bottles of chablis may have their own thoughts.

Perhaps the most important question is how much togetherness does everyone want.
Perhaps the most important question is how much togetherness does everyone want.iStock

Not all of these questions need answering before you leave home. The point is to work out which ones your group probably should address. Underneath it all is perhaps the most important question: how much togetherness does everyone want? A group holiday does not require eight people to move around as a single organism. Some will want the 7am hike. Others will consider a coffee at 10.30am an ambitious start to the day. There should be room for both.

The healthiest constitution may therefore contain an explicit opt-out clause: no offence taken if somebody skips lunch, abandons the sightseeing or spends an afternoon reading alone by the pool. Establish the occasions that really matter and let the rest breathe.

THE CAST OF CHARACTERS

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By now we’ve met the Producer, the person who turned 287 WhatsApp messages into an actual holiday. But no producer should have to carry the group alone. The best group holidays tend to operate more like a slightly chaotic small business, with everyone bringing something useful to the table.

The Treasurer has Splitwise (or another app like it) downloaded before the first Aperol is ordered. This is the person who remembers who paid the taxi from the airport, knows exactly how much everyone owes for the villa and, crucially, prevents the Producer from spending the final two days of the holiday chasing seven friends for $438.62.

Sometimes the greatest contribution to group harmony is to simply float along.
Sometimes the greatest contribution to group harmony is to simply float along.iStock

The Scout has done the research. They know which beach requires a reservation, where to buy bread in the morning and the tiny restaurant 20 minutes away that serves the best pasta you will eat all week. They have also, somehow, secured a table for eight people.

The Cook comes into their own somewhere around day three, when everyone has tired of restaurants and the fridge contains six tomatoes, half a wheel of cheese and several half-drunk bottles of wine. An hour later, dinner appears. The Cook is, at this point, also known as the Magician.

The Hype Girl (known so regardless of gender or age) has booked precisely nothing but has responded to every development with a fervour that is intentionally contagious. Do not underestimate her contribution. Morale matters.

And then there’s the Floater, perhaps the most valuable traveller of all. Any bedroom is fine. Dinner at eight? Perfect. Nine? Also perfect. Boat tomorrow? Absolutely. No boat? Equally delighted. The Floater understands that sometimes the greatest contribution to group harmony is simply not having an opinion.

Of course, many groups may have the Critic, the person who contributed absolutely nothing during the planning process but develops remarkably strong views once everything has been booked. Do not be the Critic.

Supposing your group likes one another enough to spend a holiday together, there remains the question of where to go. Someone wants Italy. Someone wants to ski. Someone has found a riad in Morocco. Meanwhile, nobody has stopped to ask the more useful question: how do we want to live together for a week?

The best destination for a group may have less to do with geography and more to do with architecture. A villa creates a very different holiday to a hotel. A great big house works differently again. And when your travelling party ranges in age from five to 85, you may discover the secret to being together is having a few opportunities not to be.

THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL

Best for: groups of couples, big birthdays, old friends who want to holiday together without necessarily living together.

Il Delfino, Yamba, accommodates up to 16 guests.
Il Delfino, Yamba, accommodates up to 16 guests.Elise Hassey

Perhaps the most civilised solution to group travel is to take over a boutique hotel. You have all the intimacy of a house – your people around the pool, at breakfast, taking over the terrace at sunset – without anyone having to share a bathroom, strip a bed or discover there’s no milk. Everyone gets their own room and, importantly, a door they can close. There is somewhere to retreat for an afternoon nap. Someone else makes breakfast. And downstairs, the communal spaces effectively become your living room.

Mount William Station’s historic homestead.
Mount William Station’s historic homestead.

It’s particularly good for groups where eight or 10 adults may adore one another but don’t necessarily need to experience each other’s morning routines. The luxury isn’t simply having the place to yourselves. It is being together without being on top of one another.

At Il Delfino in Yamba, NSW, the entire oceanfront property can be booked for a group with four suites and a separate bungalow, accommodating up to 16 guests, and a shared Lido terrace just steps from the beach.

In the Byron Bay hinterland, the adults-only Temple Hangars offers another version of the idea: four individually designed hangars, each with its own private outdoor space arranged around a communal pavilion made for long lunches and evenings around the fire.

Byron Bay’s adults-only Temple Hangars.
Byron Bay’s adults-only Temple Hangars.Nina Claire Photography

In Victoria, Mount William Station offers the country version. Set on a working station near the Grampians, its historic homestead has six individually appointed ensuite rooms, and can be booked exclusively with breakfast and three-course dinner included. A swimming pool, tennis court, golf course and sauna provides plenty to do between meals, or very little at all.

THE GREAT BIG HOUSE

Best for: two or three families, friends with kids, school holidays and groups who want to create their own temporary household.

There is a particular magic to holidaying with friends whose children are also friends with your children. For a brief and glorious period, you create a small village. The children disappear together. Adults take turns supervising the pool. Nobody has to spend seven consecutive days providing entertainment.

Lake Hawea View, near Wanaka on New Zealand’s South Island, sleeps 14.
Lake Hawea View, near Wanaka on New Zealand’s South Island, sleeps 14.

This is where the great big house comes into its own. You want multiple living areas, plenty of bathrooms and, where possible, separate wings for guest accommodation. A pool, lake or enormous garden helps. So does somewhere the teens can call their own, without actually disappearing.

Hire Satellite Island, off Tasmania,  and walking tracks, kayaks, fishing, snorkelling and wild oysters are on your doorstep.
Hire Satellite Island, off Tasmania, and walking tracks, kayaks, fishing, snorkelling and wild oysters are on your doorstep.

Lake Hawea View, near Wanaka on New Zealand’s South Island, sleeps 14 in seven bedrooms, with two kitchens and a separate guest house. There is space in spades and, for those seeking a winter ski holiday, the snowfields of Treble Cone and Cardrona are less than an hour’s drive away. For families with older children, Satellite Island, off Tasmania, offers another adventurous option. Hire it and the entire island is yours, with walking tracks, kayaks, fishing, snorkelling and wild oysters on your doorstep.

THE MULTI-GENERATIONAL GETAWAY

Best for: extended families, grandparents travelling with children and grandchildren, milestone anniversaries and other groups spanning several generations.

A cruise is one of the few holidays where a family can wake up in the same place and then go in six different directions.
A cruise is one of the few holidays where a family can wake up in the same place and then go in six different directions.

When your travelling party includes small children, teenagers, their parents and grandparents, the answer may be the opposite of putting everyone in one enormous house. Sometimes the best way to holiday together is to make it remarkably easy to separate. A cruise, to this end, cannot be beat.

It may be one of the few holidays where a family can wake up in the same place and then happily go in six different directions. Grandparents can have breakfast at seven. Teenagers can emerge at eleven. Small children can enjoy kids club. Someone can go ashore. Someone else can stay by the pool. Then everyone reconvenes to share stories over dinner.

Celebrity Cruises is particularly well set up for this kind of multi-generational holiday. Across its ocean fleet, the Camp at Sea program caters to children aged three to 12 in age-specific groups, while teenagers have their own programming and dedicated spaces. Beyond that are pools, live entertainment and shore excursions which can be experienced together, as well as restaurants, wellness and adults only spaces when different generations would rather do their own thing.

Which is really the point. The success of the multi-generational holiday may not be measured by how much time everyone spends together, but by enjoying the freedom of individual experiences before reuniting at the end of the day.

THE EUROPEAN VILLA

Best for: old friends, milestone birthdays, groups who genuinely enjoy spending most of the day together.

Masseria Belvedere in Carovigno, Puglia, ticks all the group holiday fantasy boxes, at a price to match.
Masseria Belvedere in Carovigno, Puglia, ticks all the group holiday fantasy boxes, at a price to match.

The European villa is the great-big-house holiday on steroids – and usually with considerably greater investment. But it deserves its own category because it remains the group holiday of our collective imagination. The rambling villa somewhere in Puglia, Tuscany or Provence. Shutters thrown open in the morning. A pool shimmering somewhere beyond them. A long table under the trees and somebody returning from the market with tomatoes that outdo all other tomatoes.

The European villa works when the point of the holiday is not simply travelling together but living together. Breakfast happens when people wander into the kitchen. Lunch can stretch into dinner. Nobody needs to find a restaurant table for 10 each evening. The house becomes part of the holiday rather than somewhere you return to at the end of each day.

Masseria Belvedere boasts plenty of communal space for long lunches.
Masseria Belvedere boasts plenty of communal space for long lunches.

But look beyond the infinity pool. For groups of adults, “sleeps 12” can mean six beautiful bedrooms or four beautiful bedrooms, a bunk room and a sofa bed nobody over the age of 22 should reasonably be expected to sleep on. Count the proper bedrooms. Count the bathrooms. Look for more than one communal area and enough space for everyone to occasionally disappear. And establish who gets the spectacular master suite before arrival.

For those ready to live out the fantasy, The Thinking Traveller specialises in exactly this territory, with an exclusive collection of villas across Puglia, Sardinia, Tuscany, Sicily, Greece and Corsica.

Masseria Belvedere in Carovigno, Puglia, is a case in point. Sleeping 16 across eight bedrooms with nine bathrooms it neatly passes the aforementioned bedroom test. Accommodation is spread across several wings with an infinity pool, olive grove, vegetable garden and plenty of communal space for long lunches and aperitifs. Ostuni and the beaches of the Adriatic are within easy driving distance.

SPLURGE ON THE ARRIVAL

In Paris, splurging might mean a rooftop cocktail overlooking the Eiffel Tower after checking in.
In Paris, splurging might mean a rooftop cocktail overlooking the Eiffel Tower after checking in.

After all the planning, Wilson has one final piece of advice for groups: don’t underestimate the arrival.

“Please splurge on the arrival. The first hours on the ground set the emotional tone for the entire trip, so this is where I like to go all out.”

In Paris, that might mean a rooftop cocktail overlooking the Eiffel Tower the moment everyone has checked in. In New York, Wilson has had a famous comedian join the coach straight from the airport, getting the whole group laughing and into holiday mode before they’ve even seen the skyline.

“It’s the difference between simply arriving somewhere and being transported into the destination,” she says.

Somewhere between the group chat, the airport, the bedroom negotiations and the first enormous supermarket shop, all the machinery required to make the holiday happen begins to disappear. People fall into their roles. Someone finds the beach. Someone makes coffee. Someone starts cooking. Someone opens the wine. Someone else disappears for a nap.

For a moment, multiple lives – each with their own jobs, schools, calendars, routines and responsibilities – begin operating as one slightly chaotic household.

Perhaps that’s why we bother: not because travelling with a group is easier – almost everything about getting there suggests otherwise – but because there is something increasingly rare about having nowhere else to be, with a collection of people you love who, for once, have nowhere else to be either.

Even if it did take 287 WhatsApp messages to make it happen.

Felicity BonelloFelicity Bonello is a Sydney-based journalist and producer with a weakness for beautiful hotels, long lunches and the dangerous optimism of an upcoming holiday. Follow her on instagram.com/felicitybonelloConnect via email.

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